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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.02 13:36:00 -
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You made a lot of people very happy when we saw the corp bookmarks released on SISI. We understand that it is a very early development version, but still, a couple of things that come to mind:
SCREENSHOT
- There should be a new grantable role for the corp bookmarks manegment. It would make it easier for the directors to be able to handle a new role, rather then juggle arround an existing role to make it work.
- It would be cool if you can set access rights for different BMs folders.
- The corp bookmark folder should be visible in the right-click menu in space, just like any other folder
- supposedly it takes like 5-10(?) min to update, which is perfect, please do not change that (i guess it's a server thing anyways). Some people might rage about it, but instant-corp-wide-bookmarks is not ideal, some time-buffer is required for it not to be overpowered in my opinion.
- If at all possible, subfolders in the corp-bookmarks folder would be an awesome addition.
- Another idea would be to create a second tab under the Places tab (sub-tab) rather then a special folder, so you would have a Personal tab and a Corp tab under the places tab. I don't know how would that impact the ability of copying bookmarks there, since its impossible to drag&drop with that kind of setup. Perhaps a right click option like "send to Corp"?
I will *try* update this list as feedback and ideas start being posted.
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.02 14:28:00 -
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Liu Ellens wrote:I just read about this, coming from General Discussion -- I haven't experienced it first hand yet.
Out of genuine interest: Why shouldn't they be transmitted instantly to all corp members? What is an example of an overpowered situation? (The only one that comes to my mind is the scout giving a bookmark of the found victim - but then again, the others could do a warp to that scout as fleet member anyway...?)
I'm ok with the other suggestions so far though.
"If a scout can move six systems down the cluster by himself, finds a PVEing fleet and bookmarks a wreck that is 120 KM away inside a cloud of decloaking objects, then turn all those BMs into corp BMs - then the scout doesn't even need to leave grid in order to provide a squad warp to the wreck, no need to exchange BMs."
Which basically means you get instant-warpable points on grid for everyone in fleet and not even on grid. It is a bit overpowered IMHO.
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.02 14:52:00 -
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There are cases where instant bookmark sharing would be desirable and there are cases where it seems overpowered.
Like I said, in my personal opinion there should be a small delay.
W-Space scenario:
Scout jumps in to a newly scanned wormhole, finds a fleet inside running an Anomaly, warps there, bookmarks a wreck closest to the hostiles.
He has now a couple of options: - He can fly closer to the hostiles, providing a warp in with his own ship - he can fly back to the system he came from and share the bookmark with his fleet - he can fleet-warp the fleet to the bookmark
all of the above require fast thinking, tactics, make it interesting.
Now with instant bookmark sharing all he needs to do is bookmark a wreck, share it, and wait for his fleet to come and kill everything on grid. No tactics, no decision making involved. An easy WIN button.
With a small delay it is a bit different, because you may decide to do one of the previously stated 'tactics' to get your fleet on grid FASTER then the delay time is. So it still gives you a choice of what to do in a certain situation.
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.02 14:53:00 -
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double post...
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:46:00 -
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Two step wrote:I think the plan is to make a new role, though CCP does have a limited number of roles (they are implemented with a bit mask, and I think on a 32-bit number, though maybe they moved to a 64-bit number now). I suggested re-using communications manager if they were low on role bits.
I think they are supposed to show up when right clicking in space, if that isn't working yet it is probably because they aren't done yet.
I am also working on getting the names of the CCP devs responsible, so they can be rewarded properly at FF... :)
The devs responsible should swim in beer at fanfest. <3
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:23:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:I guess despite the issues raised here, I don't see why I can't instantly send X,Y,Z Coords to ANYONE I want. I realize that for historical reasons this might be strange in eve, but really if a scout and nail everything down and send bms then GREAT
While it makes perfect sense on paper (since this is the future and what not), I think it's simply too big of an advantage.
I think that what Geldorf Drakar said makes perfect sense
Quote:make it so that corp bookmarks can only be added to when uncloaked. Such would prevent cloaky scouts from providing the rest of the fleet a warpin. I suppose it depends on how the mechanics will work... BM straight to corp BM's... BM to personal and then move to corp... etc.
It pretty much solves the problem from my point of view, you can either risk being seen and share the bookmarks, or utilize one of the tactics mentioned already, either way, it gives you a choice, I like it and im adding it to the first post.
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:56:00 -
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Candente wrote:Good news.
I think a two-fold system would be even more ideal: faster update of corporate bookmarks when the ship is uncloaked, while slow update to corp bookmarks when the ship is cloaked. Not only it will balance pvp, but also makes it easier to share bookmarks for non-pvp situations easily. I think that would be pushing it and it sounds hard to make, it's a good idea tho, but the 'no bookmark sharing while cloaked' idea is simple and works :)
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:01:00 -
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CCP Tuxford wrote: I'm currently working on a blog about this feature which should clear some things up.
Yes, please! Also, thank you very much for getting this done, it was the number one request from many w-space coporation for years now. If there's anything we (the players) can do to speed up the development process, please let us know :) Much love Tux! <3
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Asayanami Dei
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Posted - 2011.11.05 15:01:00 -
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Ampoliros wrote:i'm in agreement with Greyscale on this - i don't see the issue with the 5min timer. It's already pretty easy to provide warpins via fleet warps or warping to a fleet member, all this does is eliminate some logistical hassle in sorting out fleet warps.
At worst, I would say that Slaktoid has the right idea, and CCP should be sure to keep a dialogue open on the exact duration of the timer in case something horrible happens; but i think honestly, things will be fine I think issues like this will simply need to be revisited later on, after it has been live on TQ for a while.
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